Tom Kerridge grew up on a council estate in Gloucestershire before working his way up through the restaurant business and opening the Hand And Flowers in Bray - the only double Michelin starred pub in the world.
When he turned 40, he decided to quit alcohol and has never looked back. In this entertaining chat he tells me about the stress of working in a kitchen, sobriety, fatherhood and how he manages to keep his edge as he gets older.
His new book, Tom Kerridge Cooks Britain, is out now
Ep 125 - Tom Kerridge